Tada! I have arrived. :)

Started by golem, March 09, 2005, 08:44:34 PM

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golem

:lol: Wow... Nice site!

Is this your site Vbgamer45? Is it ok to talk in the open (I kind of like that IYKWIM ;) )?

TheProgrammingZone

Welcome golem,

Yeah, this my project when ever I get some spare time, try to add some things here and there.  Mainly now I just need some good content or get some people to submit their work/projects.  I am a little lazy wanted to write some guides for various programming languages, and some basic map editors to get some people started in game development.  Just need some time.

You are welcome to post as much as you want in fact I encourage it!
VisualBasicZone.com

golem

Have any idea what has happened to VB-Decompiler?

I can seriously relate to the idea of being busy...

Maybe MrU likes the new look... :lol:

TheProgrammingZone

Well my best guess is that it is some kind of phpbb exploit they were using an older version of  the phpbb software.  I am just glad they didn't delete any information, looks like they just renamed the admin account and added auto refresh links to a site, not really sure why. But O well.  

Its a shame I hope Mr Unleaded comes back soon, if not I wonder if alfa can fix it, pretty sure alfa has ftp access to the site.

And golem you should take a look at P32Dasm pretty close to P-Code decompiler.  Using a property database to get the property name for the VCallHresult calls, I am still a little lazy in doing that, maybe after school ends then maybe  I will find some extra time.

VisualBasicZone.com

golem

Is that your semi-decompiler? :)

Looks good. I really frown on making money on that sort of thing... Apparently I only frown on you 1/5 as much as I do Serge. :lol:

Looks like you're smoking Serge! Too bad you weren't around back when I was really in VB5/6 mode... The 'sample code' was a filter, designed to separate the wheat from the chaff. All we ever had at the various decompiler mbs were chaff and poseurs. ;)

Would have ported VB to Linux with ease. ;)

TheProgrammingZone

Yeah that is my Semi VB Decompiler.

Orginally it was free and open source but then people started to take the code and resell, so then when I made it commercial.

Porting VB would be cool, I wanted to make basicly just a P-Code compiler that could be used.  
That's it for now I am really tired.

golem

No explanation really needed as to why you went commercial...

I more than understand.

> take the code and resell
It goes way beyond that. They almost come off like you somehow owe it/something to them. :lol:

>That's it for now I am really tired.
Sure the path ahead is a sheer cliff... But so is the real fun. ;)

sarge

Well, a frown is just a smile turned upside down (yeah, right!)

And I, too, would like the decompiler site to eventually get "un-hacked".

As an FYI, I too have been approached by commercial interests.  In fact, they did not want me to post RACE 3.4, but I persuaded them to let me do it as a bug-fix of 3.3.  Of course, there ARE a few minor upgrades in it.  Anyway, you can check you "raceco.us" if you're interested.  I'm hoping that the splash screens will show people just how much you really can get back from the PCode exe.  But I'll be ^%%*'ed if I'll let them charge more than $30 for it!

(Anyway, thanks for letting me vent.  )

As for the path ahead, I say...bring it on!

Sarge

TheProgrammingZone

Welcome Sarge,

I owe you so much, you started my whole interest into vb decompiling, and decompiling in general with your pe skeleton. I have learned so much over the last year.

In regards to RACE
Three words OMG, that is the cleanest code I have ever seen.  Seriously.  It is just so pretty a comment for almost every line of code.   You are really light years ahead of me.
Commercial interests how much they paying you?

One warning about .US domains.  I heard you can no longer register them and the people who already had them were going to loose them after a year.
http://www.newstarget.com/006377.html

And some needs to bug Mr. Unleaded to get that board up again.

Still very curious about decompiler.org on how they are doing native code makes me wonder if they are just using a generic open source c++ decompiler and converting it.   Maybe one day I will try it out and see what it is all about.

vbgamer45

sarge

You are one of the lucky ones. Once they found out I had put out the demo source code, they made me upgrade to the exe.

I am hoping that the splash screens on the site show not only what the capabilities of RACE are, but what data is hidden in the exe.

Oh well,

Sarge

TheProgrammingZone

I almost thought it was a mistake so I didn't say anything on exetools.

R.A.C.E. looks very good and gets better with each release, the part about the latest release that I like the most is the verbose mode for the pcode tokens, it gives so much information and a better understanding of what really is going on.

Edit: Updated the decompilation wiki with the url to the new home of R.A.C.E.

sarge

Thanks, and thanks for the tip on the "us" domain.  Fortunately for me, that will, (I hope) go away when the "bigger and better" comes along.

I am really fanatic about parsing the PCode, and I hope that the cohesive file section sparks some thinking about source code recovery; I don't want to be TOO obvious.

Just to make sure I am not misunderstanding you:

"...the part about the latest release that I like the most is the verbose mode for the pcode tokens,..."

The "latest release" that is on the site does NOT give the verbose stuff; that is for soon-to-be released version 3.5, as the splash screens show.
And frankly, I expect by that time to become commercial.  But, we'll see...


Personal message: Keep up the good work; really like this site.

Sarge

sarge

PS: at the risk of showing off my apprenticeship, what is a "wiki", and where do I find it here?

Sarge

TheProgrammingZone

I am going to have to buy a copy of RACE when it comes out.

A wiki basiclly allows anyone to edit a page an add any useful information.

The Visual Basic Decompiler wiki is at: http://catamaran.labs.cs.uu.nl/twiki/pt/bin/view/Transform/VisualBasicDecompilers

Usally I add to it when I find a new project being started be someone or find some more information.

lonewolf

Hello folks :D

Thanx again Sarge for race.. I just put it to a test on a program called Registry Drill  .. it happens that it is P-code and not native compiled..

course some protections in the program too.. they lie LMAO :D

well better to be here late than never at all...